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Silverlight brings us the news again this week, JavaFX demonstrates it's design skills, Adobe details some info on the future of the Flash Player platform, and more details are available on the next iteration of Flex and Flex Builder. All this and more on the RIA Weekly Round-Up.

FEATURED: Flash Player vs. Silverlight

Technologies: Silverlight, Flash Player

This week saw another huge news event distributed with Microsoft Silverlight: The Democratic National Convention. Several bloggers including John Wilker, one of the guys behind 360 Conferences, points out that Adobe seems to be falling behind in these high-profile events. Some people say that Microsoft is only getting these opportunities because they pay large amounts of money to get them. Other people feel that Adobe is not asserting itself in these situations.

John Wilker: Is Adobe Even Trying?

FlashCoder.net: Flash vs. Silverlight…again?

SilverlightBrassTracks: Olympics, DNC a boon for Silverlight

Flex 4 and FXG Helps

Technologies: Flex

This week Adobe's Mike Chambers provided a wealth of links and information to help developers get started with Flex 4 (Gumbo) and FXG with FlexBuilder.

Mike Chambers: Everything there is to know about Flex 4 / Gumbo

Mike Chambers: Getting started with Flex 4 FXG and Flex Builder 3

JavaFX Designer-Developer Workflow

Technologies: JavaFX

Jeff Hoffman, a User Experience Engineer at Sun, walks you through the designer and developer workflow in JavaFX with Project Nile this week in a screencast at Netbeans TV.

NetBeans.tv: Jeff Hoffman explains the JavaFX designer-developer workflow

Emmy Huang Explains Flash Player Install Numbers

Technologies: Flash Player, Flash, Flex

Emmy Huang, one of the product manager for the Flash Playet at Adobe, gives a rundown of what the Flash Player installation numbers actually mean. In addition she gives more information about the Flash Player penetration study that is done every quarter.

Emmy Huang (Adobe): Two! Four! Six! Eight! Numbers we appreciate!

The Future of the Adobe Flash Player Platform

Technologies: Flash Player, Flash, Flex, AIR

Gregory Wilson posted the video of Mark Ander's keynote address at 360Flex last week. This talk goes into Flash Player 10, Thermo, Flex 4, and many other items that related to the future of the Flash Platform. The video is roughly one hour and ten minutes.

Greg Wilson: Video - See Flash 10, Flex 4, AIR 1.5, FXG, Thermo, Degrafa and more

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Joseph said:

Whats the flash player's impact after the release of Google Chrome, is it threat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_chrome#Plugins

David Tucker said:

I prefer not to do a great deal of speculation on products that have yet to be released - especially when they will be released in Beta. However, in this case I will address it.

I fully expect that there will be a version of the Flash Player for Google Chrome in the future. Why? Because Google needs it. You don't have the full Internet without Flash. If Google actually wants people to use Google Chrome, they will have to find a way to get it to work. If they don't they will be cutting off access to the best RIA's on the market today (Photoshop Express, Buzzword, SlideRocket, Aviary, etc...). To me - this would be suicide for their browser.

In my opinion, if it doesn't have Flash, it won't be used.

Kyle Simpson said:

since google chrome is going to use the webkit rendering engine, and i assume the spidermonkey jsvm, i imagine they'll probably just tap into the "plugin" version of the flash player, just like mozilla/safari/etc, right?

David Tucker said:

@Kyle - Google Chrome is using Webkit (although they are using a different JavaScript VM called V8 than Mozilla). In this case, the wikipedia entry that Joseph posted in his comment, highlights a few difficulties of using the Flash Player with Google Chrome. It is unclear (at this point) if the information in the Wikipedia article is correct.

I do believe that these issues will be addressed - and that the Flash Player will work with Chrome, but there may be some issues that need to be fixed.

I'm not sure what the fuss is about. So far Flash Player 10 beta is working just fine within Chrome for me.

Granted that it more than likely won't be running with the features of Chrome like sandboxing but the comic explains that part concerning plugins.

I've been running Chrome for about ten minutes (right now as a matter of fact) and a quick look around suggests that any site I normally go to works just fine, even with Flash. Plus my Yahoo Mail does seem to perform better but that's just on feeling and no real testing. The only complaint I have so far is that the level of options you can change on the browser is very limited.

David Tucker said:

@Travis - I agree. I noticed the same thing. This is an example of why it is not wise to discuss something before the details have been released. It appears that some of the early reports about Flash Player and Chrome issues were speculation rather than actual fact.

@David - Wait, you mean people treat speculation as fact on the Internet? Surely you jest!

In fact, I've seen that my usual media plugins (Quicktime, Media Player, Flash) have worked just fine with nothing required from me to get them to work. So I'm guessing it figures out what plugins you already have installed from other browsers and uses those. I'm now wondering if there is a plugin that doesn't work.

Thomas said:

@Travis:

Java did not work from the start on my computer (Windows XP) and doing a Google search showed me that people had different problems when they tried to get it to run. When I tried to access a page with some Java, nothing happened, just a message that I don't have the appropriate plugin installed.

Someone on the web suggested to add a new entry to the Chrome MIME types XML file (pointing to the JRE 6u10 installer) but that didn't really work for me either. It downloaded the JRE and appeared to install it from inside Chrome but the Java web page still showed the previous error message, this time just asking again if I want to download and install JRE 6u10.

I only managed to get it to run when I downloaded the JRE 6u10 installer separately and then started Chrome.

JRE 6u10 installer:
http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/GetFile/1.6.0_10-rc-b28/windows-i586/jre-6u10-rc-windows-i586-p-iftw.exe

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