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    <published>2008-01-22T18:38:57Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-26T03:17:14Z</updated>
    <title>There&apos;s a Forklift in my Toolbox!</title>
    <summary>Recently, Jakob wrote a column titled &quot;Web 2.0 Can Be Dangerous&quot;. This is another one of those columns designed to get people stirred up. It addresses some of the components of the Web 2.0 movement including: rich internet applications, social networking, mashups, and advertising based business models. He builds an argument that claims that companies should not get caught up in the hype surrounding Web 2.0 while working with their current web properties. They should instead focus on getting the fundamentals, or the Web 1.0 features perfect.</summary>
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      <name>Tony MacDonell</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Reading and responding to <a href="http://www.useit.com/alertbox/">Alertbox columns by Jakob Nielson</a> is potentially one of the most favorite pastimes of experience design pundits. <a href="http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html">Flash 99% Bad</a> was one that drew <a href="http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/articles/flash99good.html">a massive amount of response</a> in the year 2000, and pretty much turned him into public enemy number one in the Flash XD community. I have come to realize that while he makes some radical claims that go against the grain, he often has very valid points in between the lines.</p>

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<p>Jakob is undoubtedly a master of stating the obvious. That may seem like an insult, but the truth is that many in the industry  lose sight of the obvious in exchange for being progressive and innovative. As a result, there is an important place for his work, and people shouldn't be so swift to write him off.</p>

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<p>Recently, Jakob wrote a column titled <a href="http://www.useit.com/alertbox/web-2.html">"Web 2.0 Can Be Dangerous"</a>. This is another one of those columns designed to get people stirred up. It addresses some of the components of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0">Web 2.0</a> movement including: rich internet applications, social networking, mashups, and advertising based business models. He builds an argument that claims that companies should not get caught up in the hype surrounding Web 2.0 while working with their current web properties. They should instead focus on getting the fundamentals, or the Web 1.0 features perfect.</p>

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<p>This article makes a lot of sense, and I find myself unable to disagree with him for the most part. In order to get the right perspective on this article though, you have to really understand who he is writing it for. This article is not targeted at web development professionals, it is targeted at business owners, project managers, and decision makers that may not understand what these Web 2.0 patterns really are from a technical standpoint, but still need to make strategic decisions.</p>

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<p>I'd like to indulge in a little response article to Jakob's hottest new controversial column, and cover it in two parts that I think are of particular importance to the Rich Internet Application community.</p>

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<p><strong>Part 1 - There's a Forklift in my Toolbox</strong></p>

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<p>This Alertbox article is primarily highlighting what I like to call the "Forklift in my Toolbox" anti-pattern. He seems to feel that many are trying to apply the powerful patterns of Web 2.0 to things that do not really benefit from it, and in turn wasting time and money.</p>

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<p>I always find myself coming back to three simple resulting ends for digital experiences today. The ends are: to inform, to entertain and to empower. It is crucial for any experience designer to be very aware of which of the above comprise the goals for their project. Applying the wrong design solution and technology to any of the above ends often leads to an experience being a failure.</p>

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The Web 2.0 movement is really about creating patterns for solving new problems on the web. It is about facilitating new types of communications between people, new ways of distributing content, and ultimately, pushing the majority of our everyday computing into the cloud. It is a mistake to think of these new patterns as a replacement for the previous ones, it should instead be perceived as a layer on top. The web as we have known it is still very useful, and it is not going away.</p>

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<p>These new problems though, are big ones indeed. Imagine them as a public works project. The city has to create new roads, new highways, new on and off ramps, and to get it done, they have to use heavy duty equipment that can be very expensive and time consuming. The result is a new infrastructure, that allows many more people to travel through the city much faster and more effective than ever before.</p>

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<p>What about small towns in the country though? Do we really need to acquire all this heavy equipment and build big highways to facilitate mass transit? Are people actually going to be able to get to the few places in the town faster than they already do? The likelihood is that most people living in the small town (as well as people visiting it), would be confused by this new overblown infrastructure. It would feel bulky, awkward and inappropriate.</p>

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<p>So as a developer, just because I have an army of heavy equipment that I could use, and an array of plans for building large highways and bridges, it doesn't mean that I should apply such resources to a small town. It is certainly a waste of my time, and my clients money.</p>

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<p>Overall, Jakob has a really solid point in this article. The majority of the web properties out there do not need to implement Web 2.0 patterns, as the majority of them exist to inform only. Trying to generate social and viral activity, where the desire to do so does not already exist is silly indeed.</p>

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<p>Experiences designed to inform do benefit most from focusing on findability, and a traditional document centric navigational paradigm.</p>

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<p>While I am agreeing with Jakob, I still get really frustrated by something he always seems to do that damages people out there using this technology well. People could read his column and come away from it thinking that AJAX is bad. He has a knack for discussing issues in usability and experience design, and making it seem like the problems are the fault of the technology implemented. This is what I find misleading about his work, because the truth is, the experience designer is really at fault here.</p>

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<p>This quote sticks out to me:</p>

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<blockquote><em>"We recently tested about 100 e-commerce sites and found many problems with AJAX shopping carts. In particular, users often overlooked modest changes, such as when they added something to the cart and it updated only a small area in a corner of the screen"</em></blockquote>

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<p>This quote generates a stigma for AJAX, where it really should be focused on the fact that the designers failed to implement an intuitive user interface for a shopping cart using AJAX. Prompting them to avoid the technology and sticking to the traditional ways of building a shopping cart is not good advice. It is a sweeping generalization that assumes that all designers and strategists will likely fail at the task of building a better shopping cart experience.</p>

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<p>If I could blame my keyboard for every spelling mistake I have ever made, that would be great. If I could blame the paint and paintbrush for not spattering onto the carpet, then I would start a side business painting houses. If it was the oven's fault that the cookies got burned, then I'd have a much better reputation in the kitchen.</p>

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<p>If I could make a suggestion to Jakob's readers, I would ask them to carefully evaluate the people involved at the strategic stage of their web project before anything else. Be sure that your team is working against a strategy for success, that makes sense without talking technology.</p>

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<p>There are many people out there, that have  technological biases, and will talk technology before talking about strategy. These people can definitely be dangerous, because they have a personal supply and demand problem, and can't wait to jump into that forklift and put it to work.</p>

<p>In order to be sure when to use the forklift, we have to be sure we are working on a project that requires the heavy lifting. Based on Jakob's column we need to answer the following questions: What is an "actual application", what is "true functionality" and finally, what does the term "Website" really mean these days?. I am am going to cover all of this in my next article: <a href="http://www.insideria.com/2008/01/whos-coat-is-this-jacket.html">"Who's Coat is this Jacket?"</a>.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Laurie Gray on 2008-01-22</title>
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        <name>Laurie Gray</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I've been reading Nielsen for about as long as he's been publishing. You bring up points that could apply to just about anything he's ever written, and they could be summarized with "Nielsen takes a valid point that applies in certain situations and overgeneralizes them on a regular basis".</p>

<p>Unfortunately, Nielsen's alertbox readership consists of those who may, for whatever reason, have difficulty separating the truth from the hype and tend to listen to his overapplication as the gospel.</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong, I love "Brother Jakob", but my colleagues and I working in the trenches, specializing in Human Factors, Usability, Information Architecture, User Experience Design, and the like, feel that he's said and done some things over the years that cause more work for us.</p>

<p>You've nailed some things on the head, particularly this:</p>

<p>"carefully evaluate the people involved at the strategic stage of their web project before anything else"</p>

<p>I am a User Experience consultant, and I provide product definition services (simulation, for example) to my clients. Time and again, I have seen my clients 1) choose to build something because it's "cool" or 2) be afraid of using dynamic technology because they "don't have the resources in house". In either case, I feel it's been the wrong decision a number of times. Thanks for telling product teams that they need to have the right people on the team. In my experience, they will bring the right balance to the table, and introduce these technologies for the right reasons at the right time.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-23T04:34:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Snottlebocket on 2008-01-22</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Just a generic comment and I'm sure you're aware by now but the linebreaks get cut from your rss feed. When I try to read your feed in Google reader it's one massive block of text with no empty lines between paragraphs.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-23T07:32:06Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ahmet on 2008-01-23</title>
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        <name>Ahmet</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><em>it really should be focused on the fact that the designers failed to implement an intuitive user interface</em></p>

<p>I couldn't agree more, we need a "Brother Jakob" for designers and not for managers ;) </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-23T13:40:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Joseph on 2008-01-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I wonder where I can find information on designing user interface web 'applications'.</p>

<p>Or is it <b> instinctive </b>? Are there <b> protocols </b> in which designers (not developers) follow?</p>

<p>This site is a great source of information for RIAs, in which I believe will be the trend and buzzword of 2008.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-23T16:10:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Laurie Gray on 2008-01-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>

<p>I personally think a lot of the Usability traditionalists like Nielsen are going to be left in the dirt on this one. RIA's are here. They're not going anywhere, and they're going to become more prevalent  over time, not less.</p>

<p>That said, I think that good, solid usability/user experience/human factors/(fill in discipline here) skills and logic still apply, regardless of the technology used. Just because a user is completing a task using an RIA doesn't mean that he's thinking differently about the application, even if <b>we</b> see it as different. Users may come around in time, but it will be a long process. The problem is becoming good at usability is not something you can read in a book or take a class on and have down. It takes practice and revision. </p>

<p>US News and World Reports' Best Careers of 2008 lists Usability/User Experience Specialist as making the list this year. In this article, the training comment is oh, so true: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2357zq">http://tinyurl.com/2357zq</a> and reflects my personal experience and that of many colleagues. </p>

<p>If you want to read up, I can recommend pretty much anything produced by the Usability Professionals Association (they have a Body of Knowledge project underway), Boxes and Arrows, the IxDA, Mark Hurst's Good Experience newsletters, UsabilityNet, or Jared Spool. Disclaimer: I am on the Advisory Committee for UTEST, an online community of usability practitioners.</p>

<p>The big question, to me, is whether someone will choose to be an RIA developer who actively practices positive user experience techniques, or an RIA developer who, having heard the promise of RIA's delivering an outstanding user experience, will develop applications and state that because they created an RIA it automatically has a good user experience. It just doesn't happen that way. As a UX designer, I have worked with developers who have told me that Flex, for example, provides a superior user experience, but, when left to their own devices, have done things that simply just don't match the way that users think.</p>

<p>The technology provides the potential. The people ensure it happens.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-24T00:37:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tony MacDonell on 2008-01-24</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Laurie Gray, thanks for the input, and very well said. Being an Experience designer/usability expert is not equivalent to being a Flex (or any other rich internet ui technology) developer.</p>

<p>I am positive that none of the RIA technologies come, with an auto-strategy feature.</p>

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    <published>2008-01-24T19:35:44Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Abhijeet on 2008-07-10</title>
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        <name>Abhijeet</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Suddenly there is lot of hype on web 2.0 which was expected but the thought of getting your basics right with web 1.0 as mentioned by Jakob Neilson is no doubt agreeable.</p>

<p>I would believe if the designing your application just for the sake of implementing web 2.0 is real wastage of resources and example of wrong approach of project design practice.</p>

<p>Abhijeet | <a href="http://www.lifeiscolourful.com/">My page</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-10T09:12:54Z</published>
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